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Fisher Investments. Clearly better money management. better money management. >>> BACK NOW WITH THE PANEL. >>> BACK NOW WITH THE PANEL. PEGGY. PEGGY. >> YES. >> YES. >> THERES A LOT TO DIGEST IN THAT ONE BECAUSE WE WENT A LOT THAT ONE BECAUSE WE WENT A LOT OF PLACES. OF PLACES. I FIRST WANT TO START WITH THE I FIRST WANT TO START WITH THE CHILD MIGRATION ISSUE BECAUSE HE JUST — THERE IS — HES NOTSE HE JUST — THERE IS — HES NOT PERSONALIZING THAT ONE. PERSONALIZING THAT ONE. HE PERSONALIZES ALMOST HE PERSONALIZES ALMOST EVERYTHING IN OUR INTERVIEW. EVERYTHING IN OUR INTERVIEW. HE WANTS — HE SOUNDS A BIT HE WANTS — HE SOUNDS A BIT ALMOST TOO DISPASSIONATE. ALMOST TOO DISPASSIONATE.

>> THATS INTERESTING YOU FOUND HIM TO BE A LITTLE DISTANCED ON HIM TO BE A LITTLE DISTANCED ON THE SUBJECT. THE SUBJECT. I KNOW HE THINKS IT IS A BIG I KNOW HE THINKS IT IS A BIG ISSUE FOR HIM STILL. ISSUE FOR HIM STILL. IN THE COMING ELECTION. IN THE COMING ELECTION. I KNOW ALSO THERE IS PROBABLY A I KNOW ALSO THERE IS PROBABLY A SENSE WITHIN HIM THAT HE IS SENSE WITHIN HIM THAT HE IS PERCEIVED BY OTHERS TO BE PERCEIVED BY OTHERS TO BE FAILING THERE AT THE BORDER.

FAILING THERE AT THE BORDER. NOT ONLY FOR THE ISSUES YOU NOT ONLY FOR THE ISSUES YOU MENTIONED, WHICH ARE VERY MENTIONED, WHICH ARE VERY SERIOUS, BUT BECAUSE ITS BEEN SERIOUS, BUT BECAUSE ITS BEEN THREE YEARS NOW AND NOTHING IS THREE YEARS NOW AND NOTHING IS UNDER CONTROL DOWN THERE. UNDER CONTROL DOWN THERE. SO, MAYBE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO SO, MAYBE THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH HIS THINKING.

DO WITH HIS THINKING. BUT ILL TELL YOU, I WAS BUT ILL TELL YOU, I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR AUDIENCE HERE LISTENING TO YOUR AUDIENCE HERE AS WE WERE WATCHING THIS AS WE WERE WATCHING THIS INTERVIEW. INTERVIEW. AND, MAN, I THOUGHT OF THE OLD — LOOK, THIS PRESIDENT, WE OLD — LOOK, THIS PRESIDENT, WE SHOULDNT LOSE SIGHT OF IT SHOULDNT LOSE SIGHT OF IT BECAUSE WE SEE HIM EVERY DAY. THIS IS A COMPELLING CHARACTER THIS IS A COMPELLING CHARACTER WHO PEOPLE ARE WATCHING CLOSELY. WHO PEOPLE ARE WATCHING CLOSELY. IN IS A CHARACTER. IN IS A CHARACTER. HE REMINDED ME — HES GOT A HE REMINDED ME — HES GOT A LINE ON EVERY SUBJECT AND HE LINE ON EVERY SUBJECT AND HE REMINDED ME OF THE OLD REAL REMINDED ME OF THE OLD REAL ESTATE SALESMAN SAYING, ALWAYS ESTATE SALESMAN SAYING, ALWAYS BE CLOSING. BE CLOSING. >> YES. >> YES. >> I SENSE HE IS ALWAYS CLOSING. >> I SENSE HE IS ALWAYS CLOSING. BUT I HEARD A LOT OF LAUGHTER FROM YOUR AUDIENCE.F LAUGHTER FROM YOUR AUDIENCE. IM NOT SURE I CAN INTERPRET THE IM NOT SURE I CAN INTERPRET THE KIND OF LAUGHTER, BUT, MAN, IT KIND OF LAUGHTER, BUT, MAN, IT WAS TOTAL ENGAGEMENT. >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THE >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT FRUSTRATING THING ABOUT IMMIGRATION, I WOULD IMAGINE, PROBABLY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IS PROBABLY TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IS THIS PRESIDENT IS IN A POSITION THIS PRESIDENT IS IN A POSITION TO DO THE DEAL ON IMMIGRATION.

TO DO THE DEAL ON IMMIGRATION. >> BOY, HE HAS BEEN. >> BOY, HE HAS BEEN. >> HE IS IN THE POSITION, AND >> HE IS IN THE POSITION, AND EVERYONE KNOWS THE TERMS OF THE EVERYONE KNOWS THE TERMS OF THE DEAL. DEAL. EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WANT OUT OF IT. DEMOCRATS WANT OUT OF IT. EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE REPUBLICANS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF BORDER SECURITY AND AIN TERMS OF BORDER SECURITY AND A MERIT-BASED SYSTEM. MERIT-BASED SYSTEM. HES THE ONE THAT CAN GET THIS HES THE ONE THAT CAN GET THIS DONE. DONE. I IMAGINE ITS FRUSTRATING. I IMAGINE ITS FRUSTRATING. ITS POLITICS INVOLVED. ITS POLITICS INVOLVED. I GET THAT. I GET THAT. ITS AN ELECTION YEAR. ITS AN ELECTION YEAR. ITS ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT TO DO IMMIGRATION IN AN ELECTION YEAR IMMIGRATION IN AN ELECTION YEAR BUT I STILL INC. THIS THE BUT I STILL INC. THIS THE PRESIDENT IS THE ONE TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT IS THE ONE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND GET OUT THERE OPPORTUNITY AND GET OUT THERE AND GET THAT DEAL DONE.

AND GET THAT DEAL DONE. >> DID HE BLUFF — ITS >> DID HE BLUFF — ITS INTERESTING PEGGY SAID ALWAYS INTERESTING PEGGY SAID ALWAYS CLOSING, BUT IS HE GOING TO GET CLOSING, BUT IS HE GOING TO GET A REPUTATION THAT HE BLUFFS TOO A REPUTATION THAT HE BLUFFS TOO MUCH? MUCH? >> YEAH, THATS A GREAT >> YEAH, THATS A GREAT QUESTION. QUESTION. THE LAST TWO WEEKS BASICALLY THE LAST TWO WEEKS BASICALLY HES DONE THIS THREE TIMES. HES DONE THIS THREE TIMES. MEXICO AND THE TARIFFS. MEXICO AND THE TARIFFS. HE SAYS, IM GOING TO IMPOSE HE SAYS, IM GOING TO IMPOSE THESE CRIPPLING TARIFFS UNLESS YOU GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.UNLESS YOU GIVE ME WHAT I WANT. PULLED OFF AND GOT A DEAL.

PULLED OFF AND GOT A DEAL. HE DID THE SAME THING WITH IRAN. HE DID THE SAME THING WITH IRAN. NOT THAT HE GOT A DEAL BUT NOT THAT HE GOT A DEAL BUT PULLED BACK ON THE STRIKE. AND THE I.C.E. DEPORTATION, AND THE I.C.E. DEPORTATION, NANCY PELOSI CALLED ME SO I NANCY PELOSI CALLED ME SO I DECIDED TO HOLD OFF FOR TWO WEEKS.D TO HOLD OFF FOR TWO WEEKS. >> HE GIVES DEMOCRATS CREDIT. >> HE GIVES DEMOCRATS CREDIT. IM NOT SURE IF THATS SMART WITH SWING VOTERS.TS SMART WITH SWING VOTERS. >> HES BEING ACCOMMODATING.

>> HES BEING ACCOMMODATING. EVEN THOUGH ITS THE CRISIS HE EVEN THOUGH ITS THE CRISIS HE SET UP. SET UP. THIS WEEKEND IS GOING TO BE MASS THIS WEEKEND IS GOING TO BE MASS DEPORTATIONS. DEPORTATIONS. WELL, MAYBE NOT. HE LIKES TO CREATE CRISIS AND BE HE LIKES TO CREATE CRISIS AND BE THE SOLVER OF THE CRISIS. THE SOLVER OF THE CRISIS. HES A SHOWMAN. HES A SHOWMAN. ITS A WAY OF GETTING WHERE HE WANTS TO GO. GETTING WHERE HE WANTS TO GO. YOU PUT OUT A MAXIMALIST, ALMOST YOU PUT OUT A MAXIMALIST, ALMOST EXTREME VERSION OF WHAT YOU WANT EXTREME VERSION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO GET IN ORDER TO PUSH YOUR TO GET IN ORDER TO PUSH YOUR OTHER SIDE TO GET 70%, 80% OF OTHER SIDE TO GET 70%, 80% OF WHAT YOU WANT. WHAT YOU WANT.

THAT WORKS SOMETIMES BUT A LOT OF TIMES HES COMING UP WITH AT OF TIMES HES COMING UP WITH A DEAL THATS NOT MUCH OF A DEAL. DEAL THATS NOT MUCH OF A DEAL. >> CHUCK, WATCHING YOUR EXCHANGE >> CHUCK, WATCHING YOUR EXCHANGE WITH HIM ABOUT KIDS AT THE WITH HIM ABOUT KIDS AT THE BORDER, IT REMINDS ME OF THE BORDER, IT REMINDS ME OF THE PHRASE HE UTTERED OVER AND OVER, PHRASE HE UTTERED OVER AND OVER, I ALONE CAN FIX IT. I ALONE CAN FIX IT. I THINK HES DEEPLY FRUSTRATED THAT HE CANT FIX IT.RUSTRATED THAT HE CANT FIX IT. HE DID WALK UP TO THE LINE OF HE DID WALK UP TO THE LINE OF THE DEPORTATIONS THAT WERE THE DEPORTATIONS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO START TODAY AND SAY, SUPPOSED TO START TODAY AND SAY, LOOK, NOW IM CALLING ON LOOK, NOW IM CALLING ON DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TO GET DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON ASYLUM. SOMETHING DONE ON ASYLUM. THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT COULD HAPPEN, THEY ARE WHAT COULD HAPPEN, THEY ARE CONSIDERING THESE BILLS THAT CONSIDERING THESE BILLS THAT WOULD ADD MORE FUNDING TO DHS, WOULD ADD MORE FUNDING TO DHS, TO HHS AT THE BORDER. AND HELL CLAIM CREDIT AND SAY, AND HELL CLAIM CREDIT AND SAY, LOOK, WE GOT THIS DONE LOOK, WE GOT THIS DONE ULTIMATELY.

ULTIMATELY. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE SAID ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND SAID ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON AND JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN. ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ON “THE ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ON “THE WALL STREET JOURNAL” EDITORIAL WALL STREET JOURNAL” EDITORIAL PAGE, DANIEL HENNIGER, HAD AN PAGE, DANIEL HENNIGER, HAD AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION ABOUT INTERESTING OBSERVATION ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND SLEEPY JOE. JOE BIDEN AND SLEEPY JOE. MR. BIDEN MAY BE DOING SO WELL MR. BIDEN MAY BE DOING SO WELL IN THE HEAD-TO-HEADS AGAINST IN THE HEAD-TO-HEADS AGAINST MR. TRUMP BECAUSE MANY VOTERS MR. TRUMP BECAUSE MANY VOTERS SIMPLY WANT RESPITE FROM THE SIMPLY WANT RESPITE FROM THE NONSTOP TRUMPIAN ATMOSPHERE OF NONSTOP TRUMPIAN ATMOSPHERE OF DISRUPTION AND VOLATILITY. DISRUPTION AND VOLATILITY. FOR THEM, SLEEPY JOE BIDEN MAY NOT BE AN INSULT.JOE BIDEN MAY NOT BE AN INSULT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS — IN SOME I THOUGHT THAT WAS — IN SOME WAYS, THAT INTERVIEW AND THIS WAYS, THAT INTERVIEW AND THIS COLUMN, YOU SEE HOW THAT COULD COLUMN, YOU SEE HOW THAT COULD GO TOGETHER.

GO TOGETHER. >> OH, SURE. >> OH, SURE. DO YOU REMEMBER ON THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW WHEN WE WERE SULLIVAN SHOW WHEN WE WERE LITTLE CHILDREN, THERE WAS A GUY LITTLE CHILDREN, THERE WAS A GUY WHO CAME AND BALANCED PLATES. THERE WOULD BE A STICK, PUT A THERE WOULD BE A STICK, PUT A PLATE UP, GET IT GOING, GET PLATE UP, GET IT GOING, GET ANOTHER AND RUN BACK AND FORTH ANOTHER AND RUN BACK AND FORTH JUST TRYING TO KEEP THEM ALL UP. BALANCING PLATES IS PART OF THE.

BALANCING PLATES IS PART OF THE TONE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. TONE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. AND OF THIS PRESIDENT. AND OF THIS PRESIDENT. LOOK, ITS NONSTOP HAREM LOOK, ITS NONSTOP HAREM SCARE EM. SCARE EM. EVEN SOMETHING IN THE PAST THAT EVEN SOMETHING IN THE PAST THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AS CLEANLY, MIGHT HAVE BEEN AS CLEANLY, LOGICALLY HANDLED AS THE IRAN LOGICALLY HANDLED AS THE IRAN THING BECAME HAREM, SCARE EM. THING BECAME HAREM, SCARE EM. I DID IT FOR THIS REASON. I DID IT FOR THIS REASON. HES EXHAUSTING. HES EXHAUSTING. I THINK A THREAT FOR THE I THINK A THREAT FOR THE PRESIDENT IS THAT HE TENDS TO PRESIDENT IS THAT HE TENDS TO EXHAUST NOT INTO SUBMISSION BUT INTO ULTIMATE AVERSION.SION BUT INTO ULTIMATE AVERSION. MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE WHO MANY PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE SYMPATHETIC WOULD LIKE TO BE SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS HIM THINKS, OH, MY TOWARDS HIM THINKS, OH, MY GOODNESS, THIS IS TOO MUCH.

GOODNESS, THIS IS TOO MUCH. >> STOP TWEETING, STOP TAUNTING. >> STOP TWEETING, STOP TAUNTING. >> ITS TOO MUCH. >> ITS TOO MUCH. >> THATS HOW THE PRESIDENT GETS >> THATS HOW THE PRESIDENT GETS THINGS DONE. THINGS DONE. THIS IS HIS STYLE. THIS IS HIS STYLE. ITS THIS NOTION THAT YOURE ITS THIS NOTION THAT YOURE GOING TO CHANGE WHO HE IS, I GOING TO CHANGE WHO HE IS, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE UP ON THAT. THINK WE SHOULD GIVE UP ON THAT. ALL THE CRITICISM ABOUT THERE ALL THE CRITICISM ABOUT THERE BEING NO PROCESS IN THIS WHITE BEING NO PROCESS IN THIS WHITE HOUSE.

HOUSE. DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THERE WONT DO YOU REALLY EXPECT THERE WONT BE A PROCESS IN THIS WHITE BE A PROCESS IN THIS WHITE HOUSE? HOUSE? AND THE PRESIDENT ARRIVES AT AND THE PRESIDENT ARRIVES AT DECISIONS THE WAY HES GOING TO DECISIONS THE WAY HES GOING TO ARRIVE AT DECISIONS. ARRIVE AT DECISIONS. I DONT UNDERSTAND. ALL THESE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES ALL THESE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES CRITICIZING ON PROCESS. CRITICIZING ON PROCESS. I GET IT, I LOVE GOOD PROCESS I GET IT, I LOVE GOOD PROCESS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. WHY DO IT? WHY DO IT? ITS NOT A COMPELLING ARGUMENT. ITS NOT A COMPELLING ARGUMENT. HES GOING TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.ING TO DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. >> IT CAN EXHAUST PEOPLE. >> IT CAN EXHAUST PEOPLE. >> I THINK HES STRUGGLING ON >> I THINK HES STRUGGLING ON HOW TO TAKE ON BIDEN. YOU SAW THAT WHEN HE WAS IN YOU SAW THAT WHEN HE WAS IN FLORIDA LAUNCHING HIS CAMPAIGN.

FLORIDA LAUNCHING HIS CAMPAIGN. HE WENT BACK TO HIS TALKING HE WENT BACK TO HIS TALKING POINTS BS ON HILLARY CLINTON POINTS BS ON HILLARY CLINTON BECAUSE IN SOME WAYS HES MORE BECAUSE IN SOME WAYS HES MORE COMFORTABLE THERE. COMFORTABLE THERE. >> HE DECIDED SHE WAS A GREAT >> HE DECIDED SHE WAS A GREAT CANDIDATE NOW. CANDIDATE NOW. >> EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY. >> THATS INTERESTING. >> THATS INTERESTING. >> YEAH, BECAUSE SHES A GREAT >> YEAH, BECAUSE SHES A GREAT CANDIDATE BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE .

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